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Statement of Senator Patrick Leahy,
Chairman, Senate Judiciary Committee
"DOJ Oversight: Preserving Our Freedoms While Defending Against
Terrorism"
Hearing With Attorney General John Ashcroft
December 6, 2001
Attorney General Ashcroft, welcome.
In the 12 weeks since the September 11 attacks, Americans in law
enforcement have been working tirelessly to protect the public, to
capture and thwart terrorists, and to bring them to justice. For its
part, Congress too has moved promptly on several fronts, including our
expedited consideration and enactment of the anti-terrorism bill two
months ago.
In the two months since your last appearance before this committee,
terrorism also has reached Congress’s doorstep. That is why we are
meeting in this room today, and not in the Hart Building, which
remains closed.
Last week the Justice Department witness appearing before this
committee described Congress as a "full partner" in our
nation’s anti-terrorism efforts. That is how the Founders and our
Constitution intended it. The partnership of our two branches of
government working together produced an anti-terrorism bill that was
better than either branch acting alone would have produced, and with
greater public confidence in the result. America works best when all
parts of our government govern together.
As we continue our discussion of important and difficult questions
about the means to be used in the fight against terrorism, let
no one, friend or foe, mistake this for anything other than what it
is: a principled discussion of policy approaches, and a constructive
assessment of the effectiveness of those approaches, undertaken by
partners in our country’s efforts against a common enemy.
Tomorrow is the 60th anniversary of the attack on Pearl
Harbor. Many have compared the galvanizing effect of that attack to
that of the atrocities committed on September 11. Today, as 60 years
ago, government at every level is under great pressure to act. Our
system is intended to help make sure that what we do keeps us on a
heading that achieves our goals while holding true to our
constitutional principles. The Constitution does not need protection
when its guarantees are popular, but it very much needs our protection
when events tempt us to, "just this once," abridge its
guarantees of our freedom.
The need for congressional oversight and vigilance is not, as some
mistakenly describe it, "to protect terrorists;" it is to
protect ourselves and our freedoms, something in which each and every
American has a stake. It is to make sure that we keep in sight at all
times the line that separates tremendous government power on the one
hand and the rights and liberties of all Americans on the other. It is
to make sure that our government has good reason before snooping into
our bank records, our tax returns or our e-mail, or before the
government listens in as we talk with our attorneys. It is to make
sure that no one official, however well intentioned, decides when that
line is to be crossed, without good reason for that decision. Whether
the Administration’s recent unilateral actions are popular or
unpopular at the moment, as the oversight committee for the Department
of Justice, we accept our responsibility to examine them. This is our
role under the Constitution, this is our duty, and we will not shrink
from it.
So, too, is congressional oversight important in helping to
maintain public confidence in our system of laws. In our society,
unlike in so many other nations, when a judge issues an order, it is
respected and carried out because the public has faith in our system
and its laws. The division of power and the checks and balances built
into our system help sustain and earn the public’s confidence in the
actions taken by their government. The consent of the governed that is
at the heart of our democracy makes our laws effective and sustains
our society.
I commend Senator Schumer, the chair of the Administrative
Oversight and the Courts Subcommittee, and Senator Feingold, the chair
of our Constitution Subcommittee, for holding their hearings earlier
this week, and for the constructive contributions to those hearings by
Senator Hatch, Senator Sessions, Senator Durbin, Senator Feinstein and
others. They were acting in the finest tradition of the Senate and
this country.
During the past week of hearings and public debate, this oversight
process already has contributed to clarifying the President’s order
to establish military tribunals. It now seems that the President’s
language that ostensibly suspends the writ of habeas corpus,
the language providing for secret trials, and the expansive sweep of
the President’s November 13 order were not intended; instead the
Administration’s intention is to use procedural rules more like
those used in our courts and our courts martial. Over the last week it
has become clearer that, as written, the President’s order outlines
a process that is far different than our military system of justice.
American military justice is the best in the world and includes open
trials, right to counsel and judicial review. It also appears that the
risks of pursuing "victor’s justice" are beginning to be
understood more fully as the initial conception of the order is being
reformed and clarified. I commend the members of this committee for
their contributions to that process.
Last week, Senator Specter wrote an article expressing his concern
that the Administration had not demonstrated the need for the
President’s extraordinarily broad order on military commissions.
Others, Democrats and Republicans, moderates and conservatives, have
expressed concern about the broad powers asserted by the
Administration and about the manner in which it has asserted them –
bypassing both Congress and the courts. Last Wednesday’s hearing
allowed the Committee to hear firsthand from legal experts across the
spectrum on these questions and to assist in clarifying the
Administration’s intentions and actions.
There are circumstances where military tribunals are appropriate. I
agree with the constitutional experts and others who have testified
before the Committee that military tribunals can have a role in our
prosecution of the campaign against terrorism. However, many issues
remain about how to proceed with such tribunals in the best interests
of our national security. Ultimately, the question is not only whether
our government has the right or the power to take certain actions and
in certain ways, but whether the means we choose truly protect our
security.
Defining those circumstances where military tribunals serve our
national security interests is no easy task, and Congress has
contributions to make to this discussion, as we already have. To many,
the constitutional requirement that military tribunals be authorized
by Congress is clear. To others, it is not. To everyone, it should be
beyond argument that such an authorization, carefully drawn by both
branches of government, would be helpful in resolving this doubt and
in lending credibility to their use. Several members of the Committee
of both parties have been crafting ideas for such an authorizing
resolution to clarify these issues, and I invite you to work with
members of the Committee in exploring a consensus charter for
tribunals.
It is never easy to raise questions about the conduct of the
Executive Branch when our military forces are engaged in combat, even
when those questions do not concern our military operations. The
matters we are examining concern homeland security, our constitutional
rights, and preserving the limits on governmental authority that form
the foundation of our constitutional democracy. These are questions
that go to the heart of what America stands for, to its people and to
the world, when we are put to the test. These are questions that we
need to debate openly and thoughtfully. This committee hopes to cast
the light of reasoned public inquiry on the Administration’s
actions, especially on sweeping unilateral actions that might affect
fundamental rights. Ultimately, taking a close look at assertions of
government power is one of the best ways to preserve our freedoms and
ensure our security.
None of us in elective or appointive positions in government has a
monopoly of wisdom or of patriotism, and under our system, neither do
any of us have a monopoly of authority.
The Framers of our Constitution had great confidence in George
Washington and certainly did not expect him to abuse his power. But
they did not entrust their liberty to his, or to any government’s,
good intentions. Instead they provided for a system of checks and
balances, including congressional oversight, judicial review and
openness to public scrutiny. This committee will be vigilant in
seeking to preserve those fundamentals of our American constitutional
system. We can be both tough on terrorists and true to the
Constitution.
I look forward to hearing from the Attorney General. I want to
thank him again for appearing today and hope that he will be able to
stay to answer the questions of all senators.
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